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Showing posts with label Westlake. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Westlake. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Westlake District Police Shooting Causes Uproar: Your Feelings on the Situation.


Photo from Los Angeles Times

On Sunday, September 5, 2010 bicycle police shot and killed a Guatemalan day laborer Manuel Jamines who was swinging a knife in the Westlake district on 6th and Union.
People in the the mostly immigrant neighborhood where outraged with police for taking the incident that far. Yesterday in the same area a mini riot broke out with police and people attending a vigil near where he died. Debris was being thrown at police from apartment buildings roofs and people running around the street in protest. Trash cans where also lit on fire. Twenty people where arrested.
The neighborhood has always been a target of controversy with the immigrant community  and police mostly because of years of gang violence and problems with the Rampart Division who patrol the area.
According to the Los Angeles times today there will be a community meeting that will be held near MacArthur park so officials could respond to this situation. Protesters and activist are said to continue expressing their anger towards the situation until something is done about it.






The question is did police use too much force on this situation?

The man who they shot was said to be a Guatemalan day laborer. He was known on the street as possibly being homeless with a drinking problem. Some have said he was known to always be drunk and had pulled out a knife before. According to the article he was actually scaring some people that is why they waved down police. He then refused to let go of the knife and was drunk ranting. Here is the article from Los Angeles Times.

Police shoot man dead in Westlake

LAPD officers had ordered him to drop a knife before they opened fire.

CALIFORNIA

September 06, 2010|Victoria Kim
Los Angeles police shot and killed a man who reportedly threatened bystanders with a knife in a bustling Westlake shopping district on Sunday, authorities said.
Officers with the bicycle unit of LAPD's Rampart Division were responding to an unrelated call about 1 p.m. when a pedestrian flagged them down and alerted them to a man with a knife near 6th Street and Union Avenue, according to Cmdr. Blake Chou. The officers confronted the man and ordered him to drop the knife several times. When he failed to drop the weapon, officers began firing, police said.


  • Police did not release the dead man's name or age, nor did they specify how many shots had been fired. The LAPD's force investigation division was called to the scene, Chou said.
The shooting occurred on a busy stretch of 6th street that is lined with discount shops, thrift stores, and a Food 4 Less grocery store. The street, which sees heavy foot traffic from shoppers, came to a standstill.
Crowds gathered along the crime scene tape that stretched for several blocks as officers remained at the scene. The crowds grew larger and increasingly surly as time passed. All eyes were focused on the body, which was covered with a white sheet and remained in plain sight on a corner in front of a dollar store, beside a newspaper sales box. Blood ran down the sidewalk.
Some nearby residents said officers routinely harassed them there and took the opportunity Sunday to voice their opinions about the police.
"Killers go to hell," one person said.
"You guys don't have the right to come to our neighborhood and assassinate people," another yelled.
A resident living less than a block from the scene said the dead man was middle-aged, well-known in the area and frequently appeared to be drunk. She often saw him passed out not far from where he was shot.
"He's the guy that always sleeps under that tree right there," said Tasha Woods, who was standing out on her front steps watching the police investigation of the scene.
"The guy with the mustache?" a neighbor asked.
"Yeah," Woods responded.
Woods said she heard the commotion from her home and came out to the balcony where she saw the confrontation.
"The police told him, 'Put the knife down, put the knife down,' " Woods said. She said the man responded by becoming agitated and rambling loudly. "You could see him wobbling from side to side," she said.
Meleika Williams, another resident, said the man may have stabbed people on the streets before he was shot by police. Authorities said they could not confirm whether anyone had been stabbed.


On one hand the man was not in the best situation nor the right state of mind. Police could have used another tactic to take him down (ex) pepper spray or bean bag shots. 
The three officers involved only one has been on the force thirteen years and the other two 5 years essentially still rookies. But is that a reason they might of shot him because of experienced  in this situation? Or where they really scared for their lives? Did they really think that there was no other way to subdue him?  What is your feelings on this situation? let me know.



Meeting regarding this situation will be held today @
6:30 p.m.
John Leichty Middle School at 650 S. Union Ave.

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Creepy House


There is this abandoned house down the street from me off Lucas Ave and what split's into Beverly and 2nd Street. I looks like it has been neglected for many year's. I am not sure how long it's been abandoned , or why nobody has bothered to touch it. The only attention it has gotten is from people catching spots (tags) on it. It is one of the few old houses left on Lucas Street since the new apartment complexes have gone up in the past five year's. The original state of the area is mostly long gone but a few still stand. A few year's ago there was a big hype about a 93-year-old man names Bob Pramenko who refused to sell his 1910 Craft man style home on Lucas Ave. It was said he got offered up to $700.000 to move but refused to budge until he passed away last year. He had a lot of pride and certainly loved his history and home. After he passed away the bank got the house and the property was recently sold to Essex property who owns the Belmont Station Apt Complex. Honestly it is kind of a shame that now there it is all apartments around here with a few scattered houses which look out of place now between the huge apartments. I used to come to the area when the Belmont Tunnel Graffiti pit was cracken and seen how the area changed quickly. I guess it is all just memories for some. I asked a friend who grew up in near-by Echo Park about the house and he said it has been tagged on and abandoned since he could remember. If anybody knows something about this house I would like to know. The closest address I could find on Google was 108 Lucas Ave.



This looks like the front of the house facing 2nd St along the 1st/Beverly bridge but there is no entrace in this part since it is on a steep hill. The staircase below leads up to the side of the house off Lucas Ave.

The staircase is overgrown with weeds and mud.


My homie is being silly in the picture